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Отправлено: 01.12.10 01:44. Заголовок: Piranha
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Отправлено: 01.12.10 07:00. Заголовок: Hello, Maria! Great..
Hello, Maria! Great job is on video - this is like a sample for us!  Feel at ease to chat here, we can always help translate.  |
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Отправлено: 01.12.10 09:52. Заголовок: Thank you! http://..
Thank you! I`ve seen on Youtube that there were many clicks from russia, so I followed the link und found this forum. Piranha is a great dog and it's a lot of fun to work with him. Maybe my parents can help to read here. They have learned russian at school many years before. greetings Maria |
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Отправлено: 01.12.10 09:55. Заголовок: Dino Maria, do you ..
Dino Maria, do you have only one dog, Pirahna? The Obedience is really great! Are you engaged in something else with Pirahna? How did you start dog training? Where do you train? Do your parents have any dogs? And you can use the site translator to help you read this site: click here<\/u><\/a>
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Отправлено: 01.12.10 10:03. Заголовок: I will answer all qu..
I will answer all questions later, because I have to go for walk with my dogs now.  How can I register in this forum, so that I can read in all Categories? Some of them are still closed for me. Thank you for the link to the translater. This might be a great help. |
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Отправлено: 01.12.10 10:04. Заголовок: Dino Have a nice t..
Dino Have a nice time! 
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Отправлено: 01.12.10 14:42. Заголовок: I have three dogs. Y..
I have three dogs. You can watch the picture on my account site at this forum. My partents always had hunting dogs. As I was 19 years old I bought for very less money my fist own dog Dino. He was a hunting dog as well, 1 year old an from the dog pound.
With this dog I started training and joined the local dog club. We made several different competitons. Like Begleithund, an other Sports were obedience is combined with jumping an runnig with the dog. It´s called Turnierhundesport in Germany. After some years I got the 5 year old Malinois Chubbie from my trainer. She was a good dog, but she had problems with protection. She had no obedience, was crazy on biting an had always problems with her nerves. No barking in the tent, no going out of the sleve. With this dog I went my fist steps in Iposport.
It was very difficult, but I reached Begleithund and after IPO 1 , IPO 2 and IPO 3! Nobody believed that this crazy dog could achieve this.
Now Chubbie is 9 1/2 years old and I only work with her to keep her happy and healthy. She' s an old girl now. [irlimg]http://jpe.ru/gif/smk/sm243.gif[/img]
2 years ago my father bought Piranha as puppy for himself. I started working with this dog when he was 8 weeks old.
To be continued...
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Отправлено: 01.12.10 15:53. Заголовок: Can you watch my oth..
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Отправлено: 01.12.10 16:22. Заголовок: hi there! wow, you&#..
hi there! wow, you've done a great job, really what kind of methods did you use in training Piranha? what is your start-up training for a puppy? some more to tell? it's interesting  |
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Отправлено: 01.12.10 16:31. Заголовок: Do you know Dildei? ..
Do you know Dildei? He's a german dog trainer in the USA. He has a method called "Futtertreiben" the puppy always follows the left hand which has food inside. This hand shows him to go beside the leg, sit down, lie down, to stand... It's a very positive way of working. Knut Fuchs, Peter Scherk, Robert Parak, ... use this method also for their training.
I also use the Clicker. Mostly for the apport. And also some methods from Balabanov.
With the young dog I work with food, with the older dogs with food and ball or kong.
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Отправлено: 01.12.10 16:59. Заголовок: Aha, clear http://j..
Aha, clear Dino пишет: | цитата: | | I also use the Clicker. Mostly for the apport. |
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Does it mean you train it only without prong collar? |
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Отправлено: 01.12.10 17:07. Заголовок: Yes, for apport I do..
Yes, for apport I don't need a prong collar.
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Отправлено: 01.12.10 21:10. Заголовок: Перевожу некоторую и..
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Отправлено: 01.12.10 21:20. Заголовок: Dino Hallo Maria! I..
Dino
Hallo Maria!
Ich begrüsse dich hier im Forum))!.
Du kennst mich-ich bin Oleg (bochun im Malinois-forum).
Du hast schon Zutritt in aller Bereiche.
Sag bitte wie hast du den die Adresse von unserem Forum gefunden?
P.S.
Ich habe dir ja schon gesagt,dass Fan von eurem Team bin))).
Deine Arbeit ist super!
Ich bin sehr froh,dass du zu uns angekommen bist;
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Отправлено: 01.12.10 21:26. Заголовок: Dino пишет: I have ..
Dino пишет: | цитата: | I have three dogs. You can watch the picture on my account site at this forum. My partents always had hunting dogs. As I was 19 years old I bought for very less money my fist own dog Dino. He was a hunting dog as well, 1 year old an from the dog pound.
With this dog I started training and joined the local dog club. We made several different competitons. Like Begleithund, an other Sports were obedience is combined with jumping an runnig with the dog. It´s called Turnierhundesport in Germany. After some years I got the 5 year old Malinois Chubbie from my trainer. She was a good dog, but she had problems with protection. She had no obedience, was crazy on biting an had always problems with her nerves. No barking in the tent, no going out of the sleve. With this dog I went my fist steps in Iposport.
It was very difficult, but I reached Begleithund and after IPO 1 , IPO 2 and IPO 3! Nobody believed that this crazy dog could achieve this.
Now Chubbie is 9 1/2 years old and I only work with her to keep her happy and healthy. She' s an old girl now. [irlimg]http://jpe.ru/gif/smk/sm243.gif[/img]
2 years ago my father bought Piranha as puppy for himself. I started working with this dog when he was 8 weeks old. |
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У меня 3 собаки. Вы можете посмотреть их на фото в моём профиле. У моих родителей всегда были охотничьи собаки. Когда мне исполнилось 19 лет, я купила за очень дешево свою первую собаку Дино. Он также был охотничьей собакой, гончей, в возрасте 1 год. С этой собакой я начала обучение и вступила в местный клуб собаководства. Мы учатвовали в нескольких разных соревнованиях. Это были ВН, виды спорта, комбинированные с послушанием и прыжками и беганием с собаками. В Германии это называется Turnierhundesport. Спустя несколько лет я купила 5-летнюю малинуа Чаби у своего тренера. Она была хорошей собакой, но у неё были проблемы с защитой. У неё не было послушания, она просто с ума сходила на кусании и у неё постоянно "лезли нервы". Не было облаивания в укрытии, не было отпусков рукавов... С этой собакой я делала первые шаги в ИПО спорте. Было очень трудно, но мне удалось достигнуть ВН, и после этого IPO 1 , IPO 2 и IPO 3! Никто не верил, что эта сумасшедшая собака могла этого достичь! Сейчас Чаби 9,5 лет и я работаю с ней только для поддержки её счастливой и здоровой. Она теперь старая девочка. [irlimg]http://jpe.ru/gif/smk/sm243.gif[/img] Два года назад мой папа купил Пирану щенком для себя. Я начала работать с этой собакой, когда ей было 8 недель. |
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Отправлено: 01.12.10 21:27. Заголовок: http://jpe.ru/gif/s..
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Отправлено: 01.12.10 22:10. Заголовок: Hallo Oleg! Schö..
Hallo Oleg! Schön, dass du Moderator in diesem Forum bist! Jemand der deutsch kann, ein Glück!
Ich habe das Forum über Youtube gefunden. Du kannst bei Youtube sehen wo dein Video verlinkt wurde. Ich war neugierig wer das ist und habe das Forum hier gesucht und gefunden.
In welchem Thema ist mein Video hier verlinkt?
Danke für das Freischalten zu allen Bereichen.
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Отправлено: 01.12.10 22:15. Заголовок: Dino пишет: Jemand ..
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Отправлено: 02.12.10 10:14. Заголовок: Danke Oleg! Ja das ..
Danke Oleg!
Ja das stimmt viele Menschen in der Ukraine und in Russland können perfektes Deutsch. Ich bin immer ganz überrascht, wenn ich jedes Jahr in St. Petersburg bin und mich die Leute in perfektem Deutsch ansprechend. Das ist schon toll!
Mein Vater kann noch relativ gut russisch. Er hat früher mit russischen Wissenschaftlern zusammen gearbeitet.
Ausserdem habe ich gesehen, dass hier auch ein paar andere Leute aus Deutschland angemeldet sind.
Werde heute Nachmittag mich mal in Ruhe durch das Forum lesen. Mit dem google Übersetzer klappt das ganz gut!
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Отправлено: 02.12.10 10:42. Заголовок: Dino, Hallo aus Wei&..
Dino, Hallo aus Weißrussland  Ich habe auch deine Videos mit Piranha gesehen und sehr bewundert! Habe immer großen Respekt vor den Leuten, die mit keinen "Gebrauchshunderassen" das schaffen, was viele mit besten Gebrauchshunden nicht können 
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Отправлено: 02.12.10 20:04. Заголовок: Dino Maria, what is..
Dino Maria, what is your favourite section in IPO? Sure it must be Obedience! And how do you feel about tracking? Were there any problems with Chubbie in tracking? How did you train her - as well with "Futtertreiben"? I am asking because I am keen indeed on tracking, and "the farther I go the merrier..." - there always the problems to solve. So I wanted to ask you if you don't mind: how do you problems in the training of deep nose in the head wind? If you train commonly with food, whether it is possible to make the dog thoroughly work?
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Отправлено: 02.12.10 20:51. Заголовок: Yes obedience is my ..
Yes obedience is my favourite! Oh tracking, I'm still on learning. With Chubbie I had many problems because she had never learned to be slow and concentrated on the track. I started with small food squares (method of Bernd Föry). And after that food tracks. It was a long long way. Also the showing of the objects (stuff which the dog has to find and show on the track). In the end I trated at the objects the ball and "beisswurst" so that it was more important than the track. After that she never missed one of them. Our last track in a competition was very good. So finally we found the right way for us. Your questions with the wind an so on are also my questions. I'm not experienced enough in this things. It's very difficult to find good people in my region who can show you their tricks. With Piranha especially I have problems with the smell of deer on the track. For this he tries to leave the track sometimes. I' m thinkin about how to solve this problem. He's very good on tracking, does a selfconfident and independantly job. Showing the objects never was a problem (he learned it allready on his first tracks) and he finds the track also in very difficult terrain. I' m not sure if pressure wouldn't destroy his selfassurance. My dogs have to work an I'm a real strict trainer but on training itself I work with less pressure and punishment as possible. With Chubbie I started when she was 5 1/2 years an she only knew the working with the ball. So I continued on working with the ball and kong. I'm flexible in this things. Maybe you have an idea for the track? |
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Отправлено: 02.12.10 21:48. Заголовок: Maria, thank you abo..
Maria, thank you about your ideas! I did the same: the food squares, the food tracks, than I reduced the food, paid the turns after the corners with to photofilm bins... We also had the long, long way! Actually I like the way my dog works on the track, but... sometimes - it depends on the wind - she can circle on the corners, and she can rush in the difficult sections if the track. And I noticed she may be with the high nose in the head wind leg, and certaimly it causes losing concentration, and if this happens at the corner, she definitely may it pass...  So, I heard some advices about that: working with electric collar, increasing food, making the track easier, trying to avoid windy weather and improving the pulling by the lead - it should be always in tense state. But my dog is very difficult to handle with the tense lead - she doesn't understand the tension properly, instead of that she starts to recheck herself... I taught her to be more self-confident and be able to solve the difficulties by herself. So I decided to try a food method. But it is winter here, everything is covered with the snow! So, I'll start in spring then. You may have a look at our latest tracking work<\/u><\/a>!))))
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Отправлено: 04.12.10 22:14. Заголовок: Your problem can be ..
Your problem can be seen very good at on this video. But still she does a good job! Is fighting and working till the end. That's important too.
I don't like tracking with electric collar. A friend of mine did this an the dog got very nervous. Pressure is very dangerous at tracking work. It can always happen that the dog stops tracking at all. Maybe you can tell her with a clear "no" that this is wrong behavior.
I also started working with photofilm tubes. It's my first time with Piranha and I like it.
I had also problems with the corner with Chubbie. I working with many many corners on track. Only 5 or 15 steps between. Much food was 2 steps behind the corner. Not as a jackpot but on 4 or 5 steps 1 piece food in every step. On normal track less food, so that the corners became more important. It was important for her to find them because she realized that this was the way to her food.
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Отправлено: 04.12.10 22:31. Заголовок: Dino, thank you very..
Dino, thank you very much for these ideas!
I can't help waiting when the fields become clean - everything is covered with snow here! I am longing to start trying!
I like the marker system of training too, and my dog loves it very much as well! So, I think, it should help.
Now I understand that we both - me and my dog - are missing the tracking work!
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Отправлено: 05.12.10 02:14. Заголовок: Dino пишет: I also ..
Dino пишет: | цитата: | | I also started working with photofilm tubes |
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Hi Dino, What do you do with photofilm tubes? Can you please explain more. |
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Отправлено: 10.12.10 19:58. Заголовок: It's the same he..
It's the same here. Everything is covered with snow.  @ Anna: Inside the film tube we put food which the dog loves very much. Mostly dog food in cans (do you know what I mean? This wet food which you can buy in every super market) but als cheese or saucage. This better food in film tubes is used at difficult situations on the track. After a corner or on long distances without any food, difficult wind... It's very good, because the dogs really have to use their nose, to find the film tube. I put them also inside the earth so that there can only be seen the cover. The dog stay concentrated an for this he gets a special reward. This works very good. Most of the best handlers in germany use this method. Here you can read it in german: http://hundesportverein-schwenningen.de/vpg/die-f%C3%A4hrtenausbildung/<\/u><\/a>
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Отправлено: 10.12.10 23:51. Заголовок: Dino Thank you for..
Dino Thank you for the explanations! I use the film tubes in the same situations. Dino пишет:  I read this article - it is my favorite! And I try to follow this system!!! Скрытый текст
I can read and understand German , but I've nearly lost the ability to speak - haven't got any practice recently...
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Отправлено: 11.12.10 01:21. Заголовок: @ Iryna: I can't..
@ Iryna: I can't open your link.  Schön, dass du auch deutsch verstehst und schreiben kannst. Dann kannst du ja auch Seminare mit deutschen Referenten besuchen oder deutsche Ausbildungsvideos anschauen! Ein riesen Vorteil! Du schreibst ja auch so tolles Englisch! Bist du Dolemtscherin von Beruf? Oder Lehrerin? |
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Отправлено: 11.12.10 07:27. Заголовок: Dino пишет: Iryna: ..
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Отправлено: 11.12.10 14:51. Заголовок: Ah, dann habe ich da..
Ah, dann habe ich das verwechselt. Dein FH Video habe ich angeschaut. Dachte du hattest noch einen anderen Link eingestellt. Ich dachte mir schon, dass du Lehrerin bist. Dein Englisch ist wirklich perfekt. Mir fällt es schwer in Englisch zu schreiben. Ich habe das in der Schule gelernt, aber nach dem Abitur nicht mehr gebraucht. Ich studiere Jura an der Universität und da brauche ich zur Zeit überhaupt kein Englisch. Also auch gute Übung für mich. Am schwierigsten finde ich auch die Fachbegriffe für die einzelnen Dinge im Hundesport. Die kenne ich nicht auf Englisch. Aber im Deutschen wird es dir sicher genauso gehen. Ich trainiere zur Zeit übrigens auch mit einem Dobermann. Er ist auch kupiert und kommt aus Serbien. Er gehört einem Freund. Der Hund hatte gebissen und musste abgegeben werden (war eine Familie mit kleinem Kind). Mein Freund hat ihn dann zu sich genommen, aber nicht so viel Lust mit ihm Hundesport zu machen. Jetzt trainiere ich mit ihm wenn ich Zeit habe. Das macht Spaß. Der Dobermann ist ziemlich groß und ich ziemlich klein. Ein lustiges Bild! Leider habe ich noch kein Video von uns. Hier ist der Dobermann mit seinem Besitzer zu sehen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igfc__HXnIw<\/u><\/a>
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Between Frankfurt and Stuttgart. 
Aber kann ich nur lesen, nicht schreiben..! Aber, ja, Ich kann schreiben, aber sehr primitiv und mit Fehler. 
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